tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post5188076065121194528..comments2024-02-05T16:40:42.711-08:00Comments on Skip the Makeup: Mother, NY... no more 'Mad Men'?Ginahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11126067426459920339noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-69516770340451977632010-10-25T14:45:43.610-07:002010-10-25T14:45:43.610-07:00I agree that the ad agency is being irresponsible....I agree that the ad agency is being irresponsible. They are obv going on the theory, 'no such thing as bad advertising'... In 50years, if we're still here, this will be looked on the same as we generally view discriminations against African Americans that were commonplace 50 years ago. It is so absurd that people cannot see how inhumane they act.lorenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02433510631530366856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-45309854896708662522010-10-23T18:20:08.616-07:002010-10-23T18:20:08.616-07:00Storm, I agree with you about the immature part. N...Storm, I agree with you about the immature part. Not credible... I don't know, they're currently the one of the most successful ad agencies in the US (and their parent company... in the world). They have huge clients. <br /><br />In terms of giving them publicity... this little blog isn't really doing that. But I feel anyone doing media activism can't be afraid to critically speak up out of fear of publicizing a product, film or campaign. Yes, it might have an immediate impact of more immediate coverage (as it did with Ticked Off Trannies with Knives) but it has a more important cumulative impact of letting media know that a community is willing to stand up for itself when it comes to being exploited. This is done in drips and drabs and over many years... even decades, but it will ultimately have a profound impact. Not speaking out accomplishes a shorter term goal of possibly burying something but nothing in the long run.Ginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126067426459920339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-48254666998177066882010-10-23T14:14:49.544-07:002010-10-23T14:14:49.544-07:00I don't like the segment on Transsexuals eithe...I don't like the segment on Transsexuals either but I also think your over reacting as it is insulting to endangered animals, animals and a whole host of other sectors. It is just a stupid non pc advert campaign by a company which shows themselves as uncaring, immature, stupid and not really credible. The people pictured as 'transsexuals' are more likely to be CD in my opinion and this just further shows they never researched what they were doing. It denigrates Americans by showing them as gullible and believing in insect funerals and the rest. Don't give them publicity.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182531443900063367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-42181407468047580782010-10-22T20:48:09.962-07:002010-10-22T20:48:09.962-07:00I sent a followup email after the form letter was ...I sent a followup email after the form letter was received. I asked specific questions about their thought process - no answer. I think their "apology" isn't as sincere as made to appear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-72383714147274098312010-10-19T10:54:20.274-07:002010-10-19T10:54:20.274-07:00Dylan, yes, evidently they sent out a form email a...Dylan, yes, evidently they sent out a form email apology. But Danielle is right that the video still exists at:<br /><br />http://www.mothernewyork.com/?p=2202<br /><br />It's at 2:09 of this collection of videos for their pr campaign.<br /><br />I would specifically prefer to hear their logic for creating this piece and know what their "creative/marketing process" was. Removing the video doesn't really get to what they were thinking when they bothered to make it and put it up and that's what I would like to have explained.Ginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126067426459920339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-41253423030613986902010-10-19T09:39:32.300-07:002010-10-19T09:39:32.300-07:00I got a follow-up email from Mother this morning a...I got a follow-up email from Mother this morning apologizing for the video and any offense it caused. It was well-wrtitten and the email took ownership of the resulting offense, which is so rare in these days of "I'm sorry you took offense..." non-apologies.<br /><br />I've sent a message thanking them for removing it from youtube and pointing out that it still appears in the montage.dylan digitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05828213747613852940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-46884565047670176012010-10-19T07:08:48.531-07:002010-10-19T07:08:48.531-07:00Video removed is insufficient.
It's already do...Video removed is insufficient.<br />It's already done harm.<br /><br />The way to make amends after doing harm is to do more good than you did harm.<br /><br />So that's what they must do. They have to do as much good to the people they harmed as they did bad, then do a bit extra. Nothing less than that can be sufficient.Battybattybatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18030389503526882755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-34553178078661175512010-10-19T05:39:34.955-07:002010-10-19T05:39:34.955-07:00http://www.mothernewyork.com/?p=2202
It's sti...http://www.mothernewyork.com/?p=2202<br /><br />It's still part of this montage on their website.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16113363637392455735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-46404755834175830682010-10-19T00:32:48.699-07:002010-10-19T00:32:48.699-07:00Video now removed by the user.Video now removed by the user.Zoe Brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13712045376060102538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-59641497084284391552010-10-18T19:28:23.626-07:002010-10-18T19:28:23.626-07:00This weekend I saw a video on Youtube from your co...This weekend I saw a video on Youtube from your company, I believe the video has since been removed. I have to say that not only was this on the poorest of taste, it was absolutely offensive. I work in branding and marketing for a multi-million dollar international business. I am also a trans woman. I was simply appalled at the content of the video and I am absolutely sure that had this video been made using ANY other community (gay men, Muslims, Asians, balding hipster dudes etc.) it would never have see the light of a monitor.<br /><br />This isn't simply a case of your company taking a "jab" at a group of people that share some qualities with me, personally. This is a case of horridly poor judgment, immensely poor timing, as well as heaping shame and ridicule on a group that is already marginalized. Do you realize that in your fine state, while gay men and lesbians are protected from job and housing discrimination, trans people can (and are) freely fired simply for being trans.<br /><br />You are in the business of image, of language, of ideas - you know that for a "joke" such as this to work it relies on knee-jerk social tropes. These tropes can be used with nuance to turn them on their sides and ultimately challenge the viewer's misconceptions. Unfortunately, this was not part of your plan. You made an easy joke out of a group that lacks access to basic housing, much less media to counter the message your firm sent. You knew full well the results of your video - or at least you should have known.. that is your job... right?<br /><br />BiancaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-71589190110706231062010-10-18T18:28:10.326-07:002010-10-18T18:28:10.326-07:00Dylan, I think you're right. This could either...Dylan, I think you're right. This could either be seen as 'enlightenment' or a case of trying to hide something of which you're ashamed and think is going to bring grief. I'm suspecting the latter.Ginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126067426459920339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-63188440527581169122010-10-18T18:06:16.451-07:002010-10-18T18:06:16.451-07:00Thanks, Gina! BTW it looks like they've (that ...Thanks, Gina! BTW it looks like they've (that is, Mother) taken it off youtube... the embedded video doesn't play anymore.dylan digitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05828213747613852940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-76300733572425291812010-10-18T18:03:50.073-07:002010-10-18T18:03:50.073-07:00@Dylan: Love your letter!@Dylan: Love your letter!Ginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126067426459920339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-83991740709565020632010-10-18T15:53:34.567-07:002010-10-18T15:53:34.567-07:00Just sent:
Hi there.
I'm a transsexual. Or r...Just sent:<br /><br />Hi there.<br /><br />I'm a transsexual. Or rather, I'm in the process of working towards becoming one. It's a really expensive process-- I'm about to fly to Texas and drop $4000 for two days of electrolysis, and that's just the first round. I get to go back at least five more times, but more likely about eight. I'm lucky; I can afford it. Most people working towards a male-to-female transition can't.<br /><br />So. Your promo, "Transsexual Barber Shop," is about as funny to me as making fun of the crooked teeth of poor children whose parents can't afford good orthodontics, or perhaps having a good laugh at the guy across from you on the bus who only has one leg and doesn't have the resources to afford a prothetic. It's a joke at the expense of those without means, and it's a cheap easy laugh. I'm glad you're in on the joke so you can enjoy it. I wonder if you have any transgendered or transsexual employees, friends, or family, and if you asked them to appear in the montage of styles to be part of the joke as well.<br /><br />You can do better than this.<br /><br />Dylandylan digitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05828213747613852940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-40587254098014948702010-10-18T14:28:25.674-07:002010-10-18T14:28:25.674-07:00Voice your complaints. Here is contact info for Mo...Voice your complaints. Here is contact info for Mother, NY:<br />phone: 212 254 2800<br />email: info@mothernewyork.com<br /><br />List of clients:<br /><br />Arla<br />Blue Q<br />Book Design<br />CBS<br />Coca Cola<br />Cumberland Packaging Corp.<br />DELL<br />Devo<br />K-Y<br />NBC<br />New Balance<br />Newton Vineyard<br />Portfolio<br />Sour Patch Kids<br />Stella Artois<br />Target<br />truTV<br />Virgin MobileAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04446070074022292008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-22786335023177462482010-10-18T12:25:08.217-07:002010-10-18T12:25:08.217-07:00Wow, that was offensive. Having had a long career ...Wow, that was offensive. Having had a long career in advertising I have to say that was so pathetic and it such poor taste that they'll definitely lose more accounts than gain.Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00129944492482478212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-68882059584868641652010-10-18T11:53:19.854-07:002010-10-18T11:53:19.854-07:00MtFs have trouble with facial hair, something that...MtFs have trouble with facial hair, something that shames us, haunts us, makes us embarrassed, and reminds us of what we are not. It's horrible to use this as a slant on an advertising gimmick, you should be charged with hate advertising.Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12052891214438052119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774093333515644935.post-84905422549514619772010-10-18T11:13:55.350-07:002010-10-18T11:13:55.350-07:00There is NOTHING funny about this. It only spreads...There is NOTHING funny about this. It only spreads transphobia and homophobia. I hope the companies that use this agency take their business elsewhere. It's stunts like this that contribute to transsexual and homosexual homicides and suicides. This company has blood on their hands.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04446070074022292008noreply@blogger.com